Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Question from Sasha - Living descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York

I know there are no decendants of Henry VIII on record. I would like to know are there any direct decendants of Henry VII & Elizabeth of York? Birth records seem to cease at a certain piont. If there are do they hold any titles?


Blogger Lara said...

Off the top of my head, I know of one for sure - Queen Elizabeth II! Here's her line of descent from them: http://tudorhistory.org/trees/er2.html So most (if not all) of the living British royals are going to have some connection to Henry VII and Elizabeth of York.

There are several other lines of descent to today, including some from Mary Tudor. One line that I can think of quickly is from the marriage of Catherine Grey (granddaughter of Mary Tudor) and Edward Seymour. Their descendants are still the Dukes of Somerset today.

January 26, 2010 10:22 PM  
Anonymous Joycem said...

I worked for a Yorkshire family last name Milne-Coates also Milne-Gaskell was told they could trace liniage back to Mary Tudor sister of Henry VIII dont know if it was through Frances Brandon or her sister. I did google a webside on decendents of Mary Tudor Queen of France and it did show this family being decendents

January 26, 2010 11:44 PM  
Anonymous Marilyn R said...

You get some interesting results by looking at the descendants of illegitimate children of the various monarchs, remembering that, as Lara has already pointed out, all monarchs and their children since the time of King James I to the present day are descended from Henry VII through his daughter Margaret, the grandmother of King James’s mother, Mary Queen of Scots.

James’s grandson, Charles II, had 14 children, unfortunately none of them to his wife! Diana Princess of Wales was descended from Charles II and Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland, while the Dukes of St Albans stem from Charles II and the actress and former orange seller, Eleanor(Nell) Gwyn.

Charles II was followed by his brother as James II. He was the father of the Queens Mary II and Anne, both of whom had no surviving children, but James II also had another large family with his second wife, as well as a number of children to mistresses – all these children were descended from Henry VII & Elizabeth of York. Several would survive to produce large families themselves, often having married relatives also descended from Henry VII.

Nearer our own times King William IV, one of Queen Victoria’s uncles, had 10 children with the actress Dorothea Jordan while he was still Duke of Clarence. Their daughter Elizabeth Fitzclarence is an ancestor of David Cameron the current Leader of the Conservative Party (the next Prime Minister?), whose wife Samantha Sheffield is descended from Charles II and Nell Gwyn.

These are just a few examples amongst what must be several thousand descendants of Henry VII and his wife.

January 27, 2010 10:52 AM  
Blogger Evelyn said...

Hmmm.. what about Henry's illegitamite son,someone fitzroy can't remember his name, but perhaps there could
be some living decendets from him?

February 03, 2010 9:45 PM  
Blogger Lara said...

Fitzroy isn't known to have had any kids - he died pretty young at 17.

February 03, 2010 9:49 PM  
Blogger kb said...

It is possible that Henry Fitzroy died a virgin. There is some indications that he and his wife, Mary Howard daughter of the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, were deliberately kept apart to avoid pregnancy. Any child from this union would have presented a serious challenge to the succession. Although the official reason was the couple's youth. They were both 14 when they married.

Mary Howard was a very strong and vocal member of the elite. She embraced the Reformation and argued forcefully for Henry VIII to pay her dower payments, threatening her father if he did not pursue her financial rights diligently enough.

Henry Fitzroy died 22 July 1536 at age 17 as Lara said. Mary died 9 Dec 1557 at the age of 38. She never remarried. Although there were multiple schemes for various candidates she refused them all.

February 06, 2010 11:15 PM  
Blogger Cockneywebel said...

Every English monarch since James I has been a direct descendant of Mary, Queen of Scots, great-grandaughter of Henry VII so yes, there are plenty of descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York through that line via their daughter Margaret.

Also, their other daughter Mary Tudor had a daughter Frances Brandon, mother of Lady Jane Grey. Jane's younger sister Katherine had two sons, the elder of whom had several children. Queen Elizabeth II is also a descendant of this line of the family through her mother, the late Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.

February 23, 2010 10:21 AM  

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