Question from Jackie - Tudor lineage
posted by Lara | 11:21 AM
My cousin's husband claims he is a direct descendant of the Tudor lineage. He claims he can trace his family tree all the way back to Queen Elizabeth. Considering she was the "Virgin Queen" how is this possible? His mother's maiden name is Tudor. I thought the Tudor line ended with Elizabeth. I know there was at least one bastard recognized male child of Henry VIII but I thought he died young without any heirs. Is this possible?
4 Comments:
I've gotten this type of question before, and the first thing I usually will point out is that just because someone has the last name Tudor, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are related to the royal family. The Welsh patronymic naming method meant that that didn't have "last names" in the sense we know it today for a long time. Usually someone would be "Owen ap Tudor", meaning "Owen, son of Tudor" (Tudor being a first name here). Eventually when these names were Anglicized, the "ap" part was dropped and the last name became Tudor.
(The example above is a shortened version of how the Tudor monarchs got their name.)
But on the other part of your question, I would have to see the evidence of a line to Elizabeth I, since as you said, she was the Virgin Queen and there is no reliable evidence that she ever had a child. Henry VIII's only acknowledged bastard was Henry Fitzroy (and yes, he did die before having children), and he didn't use the name Tudor. Elizabeth I had cousins who I believe still have living descendants today, but those are on the Boleyn/Carey side.
Technically, one could claim Tudor lineage from the line of Jasper Tudor (doubtful, because oviously the records from this branch are spotty at best) or from the descendents of Princess Mary (whose second grandaughter, Katherine Grey, married into the Seymour line).
However, this dude's probably lying.
Dude needs to brush up on his history before he makes up a lineage.
He could be lying. My husband's last name is Dowland. He is a decendant of John Dowland. However as far as we know there are no direct links. His heritage goes back to a parish in 800 ad England. There is even a church with the family name. (still there) So, I don't think you can be too quick to judge. However we do know that Elizabeth had no children, male or female. But there were other children of Henry and whoever
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